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Working on a basic guide/doc of tips for stick modding

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Hello !!

I started working on a google docs guide for stick modding. I began working on this after noticing the lack of easily accessible resources, a lot of the information on this forum and online in general is outdated and not available anymore.

I print vinyl at work so i figured I'd start by making a guide with that in mind. The doc is here and after getting a lot of nice feedback on twitter I think I'd like to expand on what I have done. I welcome any comments and suggestions on my guide ^^

If anyone has any information on modding sticks, specifically changing buttons/sticks on non Hori models or about how other print shops take their files it would be a great help.

The Official TE2, TE2+, TES+, PANTHERA EZ MOD Thread

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** IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR TECH PROBLEMS: IT MAY BE FASTER TO USE MY HELP DESK SYSTEM AS I GET BETTER NOTIFICATIONS FROM IT! HTTP://JASENSCUSTOMS.ZENDESK.COM **

Hi everyone! I wanted to take a minute to create this thread so everyone can ask questions, get help, etc. from one location with the TE2 EZ MOD.

What is the TE2 and TE2+ EZ MOD?

The TE2/TE2+ EZ MOD allows easy installation of the Brook Universal Fighting Board in all Madcatz TE2 sticks (and NOW TE2+ STICKS). If you are not familiar with the Brook UFB, check the link out. It's a PCB (or brain if you will) that allows your Fight/Arcade Stick to work with the following consoles: PS3/PS4/XBOX 360/XBOX ONE/Wii U (Pokken) and of course PC. It was released earlier this year and is a very welcomed addition to the community.

Why install it?
It mods your single stick into a multi platform beast quick and easy. Perfect for traveling around to tourneys, local events, etc. It works with all variants of the TE2 and, in my opinion, can't be installed improperly. It requires one minor modification to the stock wiring of the stick, removing the soldered on USB connector wires. They can be clipped right at the board easily. It fits in the stock location for the TE2/TE2+ so it looks clean when installed and keeps the Brook UFB swappable to other sticks as well because the connectors are common and top mounted.

What's included in the kit?
The TE2 and TE2+ EZ MOD Board is included with all necessary cables and connectors that require soldering to the Brook UFB. Can't solder? Don't worry! The shops carrying the TE2 EZ MOD will have Brook UFB pre-soldered for painless and solder-free install upon arrival.

TE2 EZ MOD Board Picture:
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TE2 EZ MOD Board Installed into an XBONE TE2:
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Install Video Part 1:
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Install Video Part 2:
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Basic Install "How To"
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Where to buy it?
You can get the TE2 EZ MOD from the following retailers later this month (June 2016) as the production run is being finalized now. Yes, each board is professionally manufactured and assembled.

Arcade Shock
Paradise Arcade Shop

You can get the TE2+ EZ MOD from me at EVO2016. Yes, each board is professionally manufactured and assembled.

FAQs (TE2 EZ MOD)
  • Price? - I am leaving this up to the Vendors, however, I expect about $30 for the kit with some special combo deals from time to time when purchased with the Brook UFB.
  • Will this work with the LVT3? - Yes. It should work fine. The Power Connector "U$8" aka "TO LVT3 or LED BOARD provides the necessary power to the stock MCZ LED board and the LVT3 board.
  • What are the jumpers in the kit used for? - You connect them to pins on JP4 (RIGHT BUTTON on the AUX Panel) and JP5 (LEFT BUTTON on the Aux Panel). These let you set those buttons to either L3, R3, TP Click, or Turbo.
  • What does JP6 do? - This is a programming header. Do not connect anything to this. It is not used by the end user.
  • Can you use this to connect a PS360+ ? - Absolutely. In this case you will only need to connect the 4P USB interconnect and the 20P ribbon cable between the two boards.
  • Can I use a Kaimana Khameleon with this setup? - Absolutely! The only modification you will need to make is making your own mini-USB to Molex 4 pin connector cable. Simply cut the non-mini end off of the cable and connect the wire ends to a molex 4P KK housing. Here's a link. Don't forget the pins!
  • What do the LEDs on the Aux panel end up doing? - On sticks that have it, the LOCK button indicates Turbo Function. Solid = Turbo activated, Blinking = Turbo in effect for the button you are pressing. The Player LEDs work as expected lighting up for what player you are on the system. The remaining don't do anything. The one fun part is on XBONE variants all LEDs do a Knight Rider chase on power up. How fun!
  • Do you have other EZ MODs? - Yes! The PS4 version of the Hori VLX has an EZ MOD available as well.And a TE2+ EZ MOD is being produced now. I have no immediate plans for TE+S EZ MODS due to military commitments and relatively low sales of that stick.
  • My MCZ LED Board doesn't light up! - Don't worry, we can fix it. It's not clean but it will work until you can update to an LVT3 LED controller. On the 3 pin LED Board Connector, connect the middle pin and the pin closest to the start/select header. You can clip the wires and then solder/splice them together or even bridge the pins on the EZMOD board underneath. The LEDs should fire right up. Thanks @Megahurtz for being the guinea pig on this work around ;)
  • My Aux panel buttons don't work!? - You most likely failed to install the jumpers on J4 and J5 labeled LEFT BUTTON and RIGHT BUTTON respectively. Please install the jumpers to set the buttons to your liking. You can make either of them L3, R3, Turbo, or Touch Pad Click. 100% of the issues with these buttons not working after install is because the jumpers weren't installed.

Here's an image of what the jumpers look like to set the LEFT and RIGHT AUX buttons. You should have TWO in your kit. Colors do not matter.

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FAQs (TE2+ EZ MOD)
  • Price? - TBD, but I hope to keep it between $35 and $40. I didn't make as many of these so volume pricing won't be as good.
  • Who sells it? Just me at EVO 2016 right now. If its popular and the TE2 EZ MOD does well, I suspect other shops will want to carry it as well.
  • Do I have to use Jumpers? Nope. Not on this one. The TE2+ had all the right buttons this time!
  • Does the UNLOCK/LOCK button work? Yes, as TURBO. To keep the board low cost and minimize the number of processors and programs to deal with I chose to NOT make that function work in lieu of using the Turbo Function.
  • Does the Touch Pad work? Yes and No. It is setup to work once Brook implements the Touch Pad connections into the UFB Firmware. The TP click does work.
  • Will this work with the LVT3? - Yes. It should work fine. The Power Connector "U$8" aka "TO LVT3 or LED BOARD provides the necessary power to the stock MCZ LED board and the LVT3 board.
  • What does JP6 do? - This is a programming header. Do not connect anything to this. It is not used by the end user.
  • Can you use this to connect a PS360+ ? - Absolutely. In this case you will only need to connect the 4P USB interconnect and the 20P ribbon cable between the two boards.
  • Why are there LEDs on the board? What do they do? Two indicate the two voltages on the board, VBUS and VCC. If they are lit, power is working properly. The final LED is a "heartbeat" this indicates that the processor is working. If it's blinking, the EZ MOD is working
  • Can I use a Kaimana Khameleon with this setup? - Absolutely! The only modification you will need to make is making your own mini-USB to Molex 4 pin connector cable. Simply cut the non-mini end off of the cable and connect the wire ends to a molex 4P KK housing. Here's a link. Don't forget the pins!
  • What do the LEDs on the Aux panel end up doing? - The LOCK button indicates Turbo Function. Solid = Turbo activated, Blinking = Turbo in effect for the button you are pressing. The Player LEDs work as expected lighting up for what player you are on the system, except there is a twist! The Player 1 LED lights up Blue if you are Player 1. Then if you are Player 2, Player 1 and Player 2 LEDs light up RED. If you are Player 3: Player 1, 2, and 3 light up GREEN. Player 4: All 4 LEDs are ON and Purple! Fun! Also, the Knight Rider woosh goes on startup and the Player LEDs cycle their colors to show everything is working. Finally in XBONE mode, all 4 LEDs are on and glow WHITE.
  • Do you have other EZ MODs? - Yes! The PS4 version of the Hori VLX has an EZ MOD available as well and the TE2 EZ MOD.

Bug Fixes and Applicability

** IF YOU HAVE A TE2 EZ MOD WITH AN XBOX 360 TE2 ONLY. EZ MOD SHIPPED AFTER 7/1/16: Player 4 LED is always lit due to a software bug we found and fixed compliments of @Feargus001100 (thanks Copy and Paste)! If you received your EZ MOD from ArcadeShock or ParadiseArcadeShop and find that the Player 4 LED on your XBOX 360 Version TE2 is always ON please contact me for a fix!

LVT3 USERS

Some of the LVT3s designed for the MCZ TE2 are not compatible with the EZ MOD. Specifically, the XBONE version. The others ARE compatible but may not work right out of the box with the TE2+ and TE2 but may require a cable fix that connects the LVT3 to the EZ MOD. Basically, if your buttons don't work after install, you need to tweak the included LVT3 cable. What is happening is the button signal connections from the LVT3 are being connected directly to the GND plane and the GND plane of the LVT3 are being connected directly to the button signals. Clearly, nothing will work this way. Here's how the connector on the EZ MOD is setup:

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Here's the link from Paradise Arcade discussing what to do to swap the wires around:

http://support.paradisearcadeshop.com/support/solutions/articles/14000026297-te2-and-te2-with-the-lvt3

*** UPDATED 6.18.17 - ADDS RAZER PANTHERA EZ MOD INFO

What is the PANTHERA EZ MOD?

The PANTHERA EZ MOD allows easy installation of the Brook Universal Fighting Board in the RAZER PANTHERA (PS4) FIGHT STICK. If you are not familiar with the Brook UFB, check the link out. It's a PCB (or brain if you will) that allows your Fight/Arcade Stick to work with the following consoles: PS3/PS4/XBOX 360/XBOX ONE/Wii U (Pokken) and of course PC. It was released earlier this year and is a very welcomed addition to the community.

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[img][/img]Why install it?
It mods your single stick into a multi platform beast quick and easy. Perfect for traveling around to tourneys, local events, etc. It works with the PANTHERA (untested or tried on the other variants) and, in my opinion, can't be installed improperly. It requires one minor modification to the stock wiring of the stick, removing the soldered on USB connector wires. They can be clipped right at the board easily. It fits in the stock location for the PANTHERA so it looks clean when installed.

What's included in the kit?
The PANTHERA EZ MOD KIT is available from www.ArcadeShock.com as a full kit. No soldering skills required or necessary.

Basic Install "How To"
Razer PANTHERA EZ MOD Install PDF

Where to buy it?
You can get the PANTHERA EZ MOD from ArcadeShock.com. Yes, each board is professionally manufactured and assembled.

Arcade Shock


FAQs (PANTHERA EZ MOD)
  • Does the Touch Pad work? Yes and No. It is setup to work once Brook implements the Touch Pad connections into the UFB Firmware. The TP click does work.
  • Do you have other EZ MODs? - Yes! The PS4 version of the Hori VLX has an EZ MOD available as well and the TE2 and TE2+ EZ MOD. The TES+ EZ MOD will be released Fall 2017.
  • Does the PS3/PS4 switch work? - No! This switch is NOT required for the Universal fighting Board and as such it is no longer functional when installed.

Problems with brook breakout board

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So i bought the brook breakout board for PS4 a while back and just yesterday put it together cause i was waiting on other parts. Every time i tested it while wiring it there were no problems but i never tested it for long (just to see if one button worked then unplugged). After finishing everything i was trying it out and it worked perfectly for a while then it suddenly stopped responding. No movement and none of the buttons worked but weirdly enough when i unplugged it from my PS4, the game (Tekken 7) told me my fight stick was disconnected so when it stopped responding the PS4 still registers it as being in. I dont know what to do cause it randomly happens so it'll worked for a couple minutes then stop responding for a few . Any help is greatly appreciated. Also returning to manufacturer is not really an option because i live in Trinidad(Caribbean) so we had to ship this part from away and cant really return it.

[Solution] USB Device descriptor request failed or Port reset failed error

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I am writing down this guide in order to help those who are or will be facing this trouble which haunted me more than a week. I will try to keep it short and simple and to the point, so here goes.

For what information I have gathered, it only happens on the 360 sticks on either windows 8.1 or windows 10 (for me win10) and most probably you have dual modded stick. I think it has something to do with the voltage of the usb port and the PCBs not being regulated probably.

First of all install the xbox 360 and xbox one controller drivers (which ever pcb you are having problems with, I was having problems for the PDP Mortal Kombat X Fightpad for xbox one and xbox 360 both sides).

Xbox 360 wired controller drivers for win 7 for 32-bit (works for win 8/8.1/10 as well).
Xbox 360 wired controller drivers for win 7 for 64-bit (works for win 8/8.1/10 as well).
Xbox one wired controller drivers for 32-bit
Xbox one wired controller drivers for 64-bit

Once you’ve installed the appropriate drivers, go for the Fixes mentioned below. Different people will have to apply different Fixes to make it work so I’ll post by numbering the Fixes starting from 1 and onwards. Plug in your arcade stick on xbox 360 mode and start following steps.

Fix No. 1:

1) Right click “My Computer” and click “Manage”.
2) In computer management, Click “Device Manager”.
3) In devices, click the side arrow on “Universal Serial bus controllers” to drop down the list and uninstall the yellow exclamation mark i.e. “USB Device Descriptor Request Failed” or “USB Port Reset Failed” or something similar.
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4) Restart PC.



Fix No. 2:

1) Right click My Computer and click Manage.
2) In computer management, Click “Device Manager”.
3) In devices, click the side arrow on “Universal Serial Bus Controllers” to drop down the list of USB Hubs.
4) Depending on computers, it might say “Generic USB hub” or “USB Root Hub”; you should have 4, 5 or maybe 8 of them listed. Right click starting from the last one, “Update driver software”.
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5) Click “Browse My computer for driver software”.
6) Click “Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer”.
7) Re-select “USB Root Hub” and click next.
8) Click close.
9) Do this for each of the “USB Root hub”.

Watch video how to do above.


It should detect your 360 arcade stick by now. If not then you might have to do Fix1 and Fix2 both respectively same as me as I have to do both that too consecutive times in order to make it work.

Fix No. 3:

1) Unplug the power cable from the CPU and let it remain unplugged for at least 5-10 minutes.
2) Plug the cable back in and start PC.

Fix No. 4:

1) Update your BIOS.
OR
Reset your BIOS.

2) Update your Generic USB drivers.

Fix No. 5:

1) Change the USB cable of the arcade stick (I would not recommend that).


Let me know what worked for you from these Fixes or if you tried your known fix and want to help others. Thanks.

Xbox 360 pcb for 2 player arcade cab?

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I want to build an arcade cabinet for my collection of fighting games on Steam, but I am wondering if there is a simple pcb that I can use that supports Xbox 360. I would rather not do a padhack, and 2 brook pcbs would really run up the price.

Any suggestions will be appreciated

Converter Compatibility Thread

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Read the FAQ before posting! :bluu:

There is not a converter for using a TE on a system other than the one it was designed for.

There is no USB to anything older. No USB to PS2, Dreamcast, etc. You must mod your stick with a MC Cthulhu or a second PCB.

If you want a stick that works on both Xbox 360 and PS3 (And PS2, Dreamcast, etc.) get a PS2 stick like a HRAP or Namco. You can then use converters to adapt it to various systems.

You can not plug a random USB controller or converter into either the Xbox 360 or PS2. The Xbox 360 only works with Xbox controllers due to its security scheme. The PS2 was never designed to accept it.

The PS3 can use HID compliant (driverless) USB controllers for PS3 and PS1 games (not PS2). This makes the USB Saturn pads worth getting. Beware of bootlegs.

The PS1 Dual Shock has the best compatibility with converters. If you are building a custom stick then these are the way to go. The original, non-analog controllers have problems with most converters and are not recommended if you can avoid them.

Most custom PS1/PS2 sticks were made with Sony PCBs. When submitting a compatilibility report open your stick and see what kind of pad is inside. The Dual Shock pads have analog sticks. The original Digital pads do not.

There are three versions of the SFAC stick. Unscrew the bottom of the case to check the PCB before purchasing an adapter. Check next to the system cable for the voltage. It will read either 3.5V 7.5V or 8V. This number is indicated in the listing below whenever possible.

Please test your converter if it can be connected to a PC:

If you purchase a converter that's USB (PS2 to PS3, etc.) and want to test it for lag (on Windows) then download this application developed by SRK member Colac. It's straightforward to use once you get the hang of it.
To accurately test your adapter/converter, you need to:

1) Turn off vertical sync in your graphics card settings.

2) Using a key on your keyboard to run through the program once and record down the input lag time from your keyboard.

3) Plug your gamepad and stick through the adapter that you want to test into your PC. Then, use programs like (xpadder) to map a button on your gamepad or stick to the SAME key that you tested in step one. Run the program and record down the input lag again.

4) Subtract the two results you got from previous steps. If the difference is less than 2 ms (i.e., stick input lag - keyboard input lag <= 2ms), then your adapter can be considered as lag free.

PS2 to PS3/USB

Note: Sony is at it again with 3.5. The Real and HAIS are reportedly done for.

The 2.7 firmware update rendered the Sumoto and TAC adapters unusable with the PS3. This was corrected with 2.8. I'm hesitant to recommend them in light of this but they are working again.

The majority of these converters should also work on a PC without drivers (InPin, Pelican). If you only care about PC compatibility then the Super Joy Box 3 Pro was highly recommended. It does not work on the PS3.

*Recommended* InPin: This is the best option that's readily available. It's sold by exclusively by SRK member laugh. Visit his eTokki shop to order one.
Compatible with: Sony PS2, PS1 DS, MAS, HRAP Series, Namco PS1, SFAC 3.5
Incompatible with: SFAC 8V?, certain PS1 Digitals

*Recommended* Pelican: People claim that these are the only adapter to feature code from Sony. They have excellent compatibility with the exception of PS1 digital PCBs. They're by far the most expensive ($50+) but can occasionally be found used at GameStop for a few dollars.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, HRAP 2, SFAC 3.5, Namco PS1, Saulabi
Incompatible with: PS1 Digital, SFAC 7.5V

HVG2: These are reportedly a good converter if your stick has a analog capabilities; like a custom with a PS1 DS. It will not work with a digital PCB like most consumer sticks have (HRAP).
Compatible With: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, Hori Fighting Stick, SFAC 3.5V, 7.5V
Incompatible with: PS1 Digital, Namco PS1, HRAP Series, Tekken 5, Pelican PS2, SFAC Pad
Reviews: Riotblade

DragonPlus: There were conflicting reports on this adapter. Most of its owners reported it as lagless. Press Up+Select for Home.
Compatible with: HRAP 2/SA, Namco PS1
Incompatible with: PS1 Digital, Tekken 5 stick

Cablesforpc: This is the one to get for owners of the SFAC stick with an 8V PCB. It allows two PS2 controllers to be connected.
Compatible with: PS1 DS, SFAC 3.5V, 8V, HRAP 1
Incompatible with: SFAC 7.5V
Reviews: Annihilationscape

Sumoto: These were reported as the best adapter for Sony digital PCBs (original pads without analog sticks). A few users have claimed they're lagless, and I haven't seen a negative review on them yet.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, PS1 Digital, Tekken 5, Pelican Universal, Pelican PS2, Ascii PS1, SFAC Pad
Incompatible with:

TAC: These were reported to work well with SFAC and HRAP series. MarkMan and others reported that it has issues so I would avoid it in favor of something else. Hold Analog for Home.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, SFAC 3.5V, HRAP 1, HRAP 2/SA
Incompatible with: PS1 Digital

Real (Incompatible with 3.5): These were once all the rage but are now discontinued. They notably do not work with PS2 DS controllers.
Compatible with: PS1 DS, HRAP 2/SA, Namco PS1, SFAC, SFAC Pad
Incompatible with: PS2 DS

Hais (Incompatible with 3.5): These reportedly work well and include a PS2 memory card reader. They have taken Sumoto's place as a solid/budget converter. Press Analog or Up+Select for XMB. Hold Up+Select for Home.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, PS1 Digital, SFAC, SFAC pad, Saturn PS2 pad, Namco PS1, Tekken 5
Incompatible with: SFAC 8V, Pelican Universal
Reviews: Canto

PS2/3 to Xbox 360

*Recommended* Controller Converter Pro by Blaze (?): This is an unmarked converter that is similar in appearance to the Blaze PS2-360. It notably does not require a 360 controller for passthrough. It reportedly works well with a HRAP3 and features similar compatibility to the Blaze.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS3 DS3, HRAP3, HRAP2, Namco T5, SFAC Pad
Incompatible with: MadCatz TE and SE, Pelican Universal

PS2 to Xbox 360

*Recommended* PS&PS2 to 360 converter (Xtokki360) by Tinybee: These converters, originally sold through Focalprice, are the best available option for PS2 to 360. They do not require an Xbox 360 controller for passthrough like the others listed below. They are also the only converter to feature a headset jack. They are sold by SRK member laugh. He is the recommended supplier because of Focalprice's questionable shipping. Analog or Select + L3 for Guide.
Compatible with: PS1 Digital, PS1 DS, PS2 DS, HRAP Series, Namco, Tekken 5, MC Cthulhu, Mayflash PS2/PS3, Tekken 4, Fighting Stick PS, ASCII Stick 3
Incompatible with:
Reviews: kaioshade, DrgnAK

The following converters require a wired 360 controller to bypass Microsoft's security scheme. A wireless controller with a Play & Charge cable will not work. Read Ikagi-chan's post for more information. The Blaze and Xtokki360 above feature a Microsoft security chip to bypass this requirement.

*Recommended* Xconverter 360 by Joytron: These were the best option until the introduction of the Xtokki360. They are now discontinued. Previously sold by SRK member laugh who brought us the InPin. Analog = Guide.
Compatible with: PS1 Digital, PS1 DS, PS2 DS, HRAP Series, Tekken 5, MAS, Namco, SFAC 3.5, SFAC Controller
Incompatible with:
Reviews: laugh, Ikagi-chan, Gamecop

*Recommended* BlazePro: These Hong Kong converters can be had for $10 on eBay. They are basically superseded by the PS3 to 360 converter listed above.
Compatible with: PS1 Digital, PS1 DS, PS2 DS, HRAP Series, Namco, SFAC 3.5, SFAC Controller, Saturn PS2 pad, Blaze Twin Shock
Incompatible with:
Reviews: Source thread

Max Shooter by Mayflash: These work great except for an issue with simultaneous key presses. Pressing corresponding buttons, for example: Right+Circle will cause the converter to freeze until another button is pressed.
Compatible with: PS1 Digital, PS1 DS, PS2 DS, HRAP 1, SFAC 3.5V, SFAC Pad, Saturn PS2 pad, Namco PS1
Incompatible with: HRAP 2, SFAC 8V

XFPS by XCM: There are a few revisions of this adapter but I can't recommend it at all. It reportedly lags and/or drops input even with a real Sony PS1 or PS2 controller. The OP repeatedly trashes them earlier on in the thread. There are 10 negative posts for every positive I could find. Read this, this, this, this, this, and this before deciding to spend your money on one of these.
Compatible with: Sony PS2, PS1 DS
Incompatible with: Namco PS1, HRAP 2

Xbox 360 to PS3

Cross Battle Adapter by XCM: MarkMan confirmed that this drops inputs similar to the XFPS. People with 360 sticks should look into adding a Cthulhu PCB (Photos) for PS3 compatibility.
Compatible with:
Incompatible with:

PS2 to DC

*Recommended* Total Control Plus: These are usually recommended since they're readily available. Toggle the switches on it to change the triggers.
Compatible with: Sony DS 2, HRAP, HRAP 2, SFAC, Tekken 5
Incompatible with: Some MAS sticks

*Recommended* Dream Connection 2 by Innovation (original URL, sold out): These as reportedly the best converters but are expensive and hard to come by. The SFAC Pad isn't recommended because it treats L1 and R1 (the HP/HK buttons) as the same button.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, PS1 Digital, SFAC 3.5V, SFAC Pad, HRAP 2/SA, Tekken 5, Pelican PS2
Incompatible with: SFAC 8V

PS2 to GameCube/Wii

*Recommended* Cube JoyBox Pro by Mayflash: These are the most commonly recommended converters for GC. They work with Tatsunoko vs. Capcom on Wii.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, PS1 Digital, HRAP 1, HRAP 2/SA, MAS, Namco PS1, Tekken 5, SFAC 3.5V, SFAC Controller
Incompatible with:

Magic Path II by EMS: These apparently work equally as well as the Cube JoyBox. They're also reported to work fine with Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, HRAP
Incompatible with:

Game Elements (eBay): This is the converter I've happily used for years. It works great on the GameCube/Wii as well as the Xbox. ArcadeStickMonk used it as well.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, SFAC 3.5V, HRAP 2 SA, MAS
Incompatible with: PS1 Digital (works on Xbox) SFAC 8V, Tekken 5 (Works on Xbox), SFAC Controller

PS2 to Xbox

*Recommended* Xbox Magic Box: These are lag free and the Saturn port is awesome. It went completely nuts when I plugged in my PS1 DS stick.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 Digital, HRAP, HRAP 2 SA
Incompatible with: PS1 DS, SFAC Pad, SFAC 8V

*Recommended* Game Elements: These work very well. See the GameCube section above.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 DS, PS1 Digital, SFAC 3.5V, SFAC Pad, HRAP 2 SA, MAS, Tekken 5
Incompatible with: SFAC 8V, Directional issues w/3rd Strike

X-Connection by Innovation: I would think the Innovation name would guarantee this one a winner, but it reportedly doesn't work with certain games or the HRAP 2.
Compatible with:
Incompatible with: HRAP 2

PS2 to Saturn, SNES, etc.

A company called ToToTEK makes a wide variety of PS2 to classic system adapters. There's one for 3DO, Neo-Geo, Famicom (NES), FC2003 (?), Saturn, GameCube, SNES, PC Engine (TurboGrafx-16), and Genesis (Mega Drive). They reportedly work well from everything I've read.

Saturn to Xbox

*Recommended* Xbox Magic Box: This works great with an official Sega pad. There isn't a Select button for Insert Coin but some Xbox emulators like FB Alpha allow it to be remapped. Only problem is that they're hard to find.
Compatible with: Model 2 (Japanese style) Sega Saturn Pad
Incompatible with: Nights Analog Pad

Saturn to PS2

*Recommended* Keio Console Converters: These are a godsend for people wanting to use their Saturn pads on other systems. They can be chained to other converters for use on the Xbox 360, PS3, etc.
Compatible with: Model 2 (Japanese style) Sega Saturn Pad, HSS-0130
Incompatible with:

Xbox to USB (Not PS3)

The original Xbox uses a USB connector with a funky male end. Female Xbox to male USB adapters can be had on eBay for a few dollars. No conversion is necessary. This reportedly works fine for the SFAC stick.

Xbox 360 to USB (Not PS3)

Xbox 360 sticks/controllers work fine on Windows using Microsoft's drivers. They're available for both 32-bit and 64-bit.

MAS Systems Official Thread

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*We recieved full permission from Kyle to make this thread*

Welcome to the MAS Systems Official Thread. In this thread you can: ask questions about our products, purchase from us, or just give us feedback on anything at all related to our merchandise or company. However, I?ll do my best to already answer a couple of these questions down below.

Which consoles do you currently make controllers for?

We make controllers for pretty much everything. Here?s a list of a couple of the popular ones:
? PS2 (works with PS1)
? PS3 (which is PS2 with an adaptor; this means if you buy the PS3, your controller will work for PS2 and PS1, all in one controller)
? PC
? X-Box 360
? GameCube
? Dreamcast
? Neo-Geo
? Supernova
And so on.

Do you offer different sized controllers?
Short answer: Full size and mini size (See below for pictures).
We manufacture both a full sized controller, as well as a mini sized controller. The main difference for the controllers: full sized controllers are more often used for tabletop purposes, which means you play with the controller sitting in front of you, not on your lap. The mini sized controller was made for the purposes of having a lighter version to place on your lap while you owned it up, sitting back into your couch or however you wished to play. Also, if your wondering, the mini version can compete just as well with a full size version, it's merely based on which one you feel suits your playing style better.

How much are your controllers?
Our controllers have a starting price of $115 for both sizes. However, the X-Box 360 has a different starting price of $170.

How much are the PCB's/PIC's?
We no longer use PCB's for our controllers, and we do not sell the PIC's by themselves.

Why does the X-Box 360 start at $170? Can I have it added to my old joystick?
It starts at $170 because the engineering behind it is a lot more difficult and labor intensive. Also, because of the way it?s made, the X-Box 360 cannot be added to an existing controller. You would have to purchase the X-Box 360 controller as your starting console, and then add more systems to that controller from there on.

Can I add more than one system to my controller? How much is it?
You can add as many systems as you would like all into one controller. The way this works cost-wise is once you decide to purchase a controller at the starting price of $115, you can then add an additional system for $40, unless you want the PS3, which is only an additional $20. Please be aware that the X-Box 360 is different in this respect. The X-Box 360 has a starting price of $170, and it cannot be added to a pre-existing controller. The only way to have multiple console with the X-Box 360 is by purchasing the X-Box 360 controller from the very start. From there, you can add on as many consoles as you want.

Will I be able to add systems later on/after I purchase the controller? Can I ship it back and/or stop by to have it done?
Definitely! A lot of people will do this, actually. You shouldn't have to buy a separate stick for every console you own. If you would like to just ship your order back to us, please make sure that you include a note inside explaining what you want in as much detail as possible; be sure to include personal information as well. If you need a format to follow, use the one at the bottom, but instead of explaining your order in detail, explain what you want added to the controller. Usually it's not a problem, but please make sure that your writing is also legible (easy to read), as that could pose some obvious problems. Alternatively, you could also drop on by and have it worked on right then and there, but please make sure you call in before doing this, as we can't ensure that we will time to work on your controller with all the other orders we have to work on! If you're lucky enough though, you may end up waiting anywhere from a half hour to a couple hours depending on what you want added in i.e. just one console as opposed to multiple consoles (please read the restrictions for X-Box 360 being added in).

What if I just want to purchase a case? How much are they?
We offer just plain empty cases for sale for both the full sized controller and the mini one. The full size case is $60 and the mini size case is $50. The X-Box 360 case is $65. Please keep in mind that shipping and handling still apply depending on your location, and in which way you choose to have it shipped

I purchased your case because I?d like to build the controller on my own, but if I have any questions on how to build it, will you help me out?
Unfortunately, we cannot help you out due to the fact that we are a business and we sell a certain product. It wouldn?t make sense for us to sell our product to those who bought it rightfully so, and then for us to turn around and help you build our product for yourself.

What kind of parts do you use for your controllers?
Traditionally, we have only used Happ parts in our controllers, and that?s what our engineer is used to working with as well. For this reason alone and also due to the fact that I only handle sales, it is not my decision on which parts can be used. Although, EvilSamurai did suggest shining some light on the subject of changing which parts we use (quoted below), which I have yet to look into as of right now, but I will definitely bring it up to the engineer.
Hi, can you guys use IL parts ( Happ has stopped purchasing their parts from Industrias Lorenzo and shifted production to their own plant in China. The quality has gone down the toilet) and quick disconnects?

Will I be able to customize my order? How so?
You can definitely customize your order to way you would like, but there are some restrictions to how far we can do this. You can customize the color/type of your buttons, you can also customize the color of the sides, as well as the type of joystick. There are a couple choices you have which I'll add in later in more detail. The T-molding is a standard black. We can do any custom faces that you would like, so long as you give us the picture you want! You have three options for the face: a black face which isn't fully black, a fully black face, or a white face.

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*Please note that the all black mini controller with blue buttons is a special order for one of our dealers, and we cannot make that exact one for you. Its purpose is to show the all black face.*

Do you guys have any blank templates that I can use?
Short version:We're releasing blank templates of our controller layouts. Keep checking the original post as they should be up within the next day or so.

Long version: Just a heads up for anyone who may be interested. Traditionally, MAS Systems has been hesistant to allow others to use our templates for customizing their own face, but I've been receiving a lot of questions regarding blank templates lately. I've talked this over with the engineer, who I wouldn't have expected to be very interested, but as it seems, because of the direct feedback that I receive from you guys, I've managed to successfully persaude him into providing you all with a template! Expect a file to be available for use within the next day or so on the original post. Thanks for all the great feedback and questions everyone! Remember, you're always free to ask me any question at all, or suggest something you would like to see from MAS Systems. We always appreciate the feedback we receive, and the buyer's interest is of the utmost importance to us. Thanks for your time.

We do ask that you refrain from using anything copyrighted (unless it's okay to do this like with streetfighter or other things that I'm not aware of), only fan-based art or something that isn't copyrighted, or just create your own, but now you will have an exact template to work with. Thanks for your interest in MAS controllers!

How do I pay? How much is shipping? Do you ship internationally?
Payments can be made through PayPal to massystems2006@sbcglobal.net and shipping will depend on the buyer's location. We do ship internationally. TAX IS INCLUDED IN THE COST.

What if I live within the area/I'm local, can I pick it up in person and/or pay by cash instead?
If you're within the area/local, you are more than welcome to save yourself the cost of shipping and pick it up in person. You can also choose to pay by cash as well (a lot people have shown to like this method the most as it's both quick and easy).

You haven't mentioned anything about accepting cards, why is that?
Not enough customers actually paid by card, and over the years it was always the same. The card service charges a monthly fee in order for us to just have the machine there to accept cards regardless of whether or not it's used (it just wasn't being used, so we got rid of it). I'm sorry if this poses as an inconvenience to any of you, but you can still use PayPal, which is highly recommended, or pay by cash if you're local! Thanks for understanding.

Just when exactly will I be receiving my order? How come the orders aren't always finished and received within the expected time?
Your order should ship within 2-3 weeks, and it also depends on how fast you want it shipped. I understand that it can be frustrating to not recieve your order on the expected time of arrival, however you must remember that MAS Systems is only run by mainly one person who handles several orders day in and day out. Our engineer works tirelessly to make sure that each and every order is built with 110%.

Hmm.. will I be able to check up on my order then?
You will most certainly be able to check up on the status of your order! We will never hide anything from the buyer.

I'm sold, how do I go about buying one?
You can either call our phone number directly (714) 839 9770, or contact me through a PM with the following format. However, it is highly reccomended that you use the format below, or something similar to it. It just makes it easier to process/finalize your order, and things do go a lot quicker that way. It also helps to ensure that we can stay organized with our orders, instead of trying to keep track of a single order over multiple messages. No offense to anyone who has already done that, it's just preferred that we have things more organized! Thanks a lot!
Name:
Adress:
Your order in as much detail as possible:
Shipping preference (default is ground shipping):
Anything else:

You can also PM me for any questions, comments, or concerns.

- MAS Systems

P.S. We are fully aware of the fact that our phone seems to be having a lot of trouble with receiving calls, however you can still place an order either through here or through a PM. I?ll be able to get you set up just the same.

I'm still curious though.. why is this in the wrong forum? How do we know if you're legitimate or not?
If you're still wondering why this thread was made in the Tech Talk forum and not the Trading Outlet, it's because I was unable to get set up in the Trading Outlet due to strict rules and regulations. But with the help of Kyle and other supporters, I was able to set up a shop here. It's all legitimate, and I have already verified who I am with Kyle as well. I hope that answered any remaining confusion there may have been. Thanks for your time.

There are a lot of other questions that have been answered throughout the thread. Please take the time to briefly search through before asking a similar question!

BLANK TEMPLATES ARE AVAILABLE NOW!! See below! You may notice that these are full size templates, but they work just the same for mini ones. Also, just in case you're wondering, your picture should go beyond the bolded black border/frame (you can delete the black border if you want.), but the main parts of your picture should not touch the sides. This is because some of the sides are lost in the the process of fitting the design onto the controller, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'm guessing it would be around a quarter of an inch to half an inch.

6 button layout (REGULAR)
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8 button layout (REGULAR)
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6 button layout (XBOX 360)
http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac165/MASSystems/6buttonlayoutXBOX360.jpg

8 button layout (XBOX 360)
http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac165/MASSystems/8buttonlayoutXBOX360.jpg

Third party PS4 padhack options

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If my DS4 padhack thread scared you from padhacking the official sony dual shock 4 controller then your in luck... sorta. There are currently two third party pads at the moment that are usable in adding ps4 support. Those being the Hori Fighting Commander 4 and the Guilty Gear pad. Now while they are both very easy to padhack the only downside to them is obtaining them is not as easy as getting a DS4 pad.

Madcatz TE/SE/TES+ Quick Connect board replacement.

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Hey guys.

So I made a replacement board for the quick connect thingy in the Madcatz TE/SE/TES+

I'm talking about this:

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So I made a 3D model to be print for the shell, and a PCB which goes with
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Here's a video about it. Links to the ressources are in the description.
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I Want The (PSD) template Of Hori VLX Red Art Panel

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Hi Guys

I just Want To Ask If Anyone Have the template (PSD) Art Panel Of Hori VLX Red ??

I Need To Print a new Designs Art

Also If you can help me with video or guide how to remove the top Art Panel and replace it with new one :s


Thanks !! B)

Best Fightpad For PS4?

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hey fighters!!!!

I just wanted to ask a quick question i recently got rid of my hori rap 4 kai stick because it is not for me i tried playing it for about 3 months while it is more fun i agree but i just play alot better on a controller.
And i guess i have carpel tunnel because after an hour on stick it just hurts on pad it does not..

So i decided to buy a good fightpad since the ps4 dpad is not good enough for me and i need 6 buttons on front so im wondering what is the best ps4 fightpad out at the moment and most durable?

I was looking at the hori fighting commander
and or maybe the new improved madcatz fightpad pro?

I mainly just want a good dpad and durable so it doesnt break on me

The Official Qanba Fightstick Thread (New products Coming)

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Hello everyone:

My name is Xianglong, QANBA's marketing manager. I'm making this thread the official QANBA thread. We will use this thread to release any new informations and to answer any questions regarding to our QANBA fightsticks. Mean while, any advices or complains can also be bosted at this thread. You are more than welcome to give us your valuable opinions.

In order to meet gamers' needs, we will constantly enhance and improve our fightsticks. Our goal is to provide extreme gaming enviroments to arcade gamers. Enjoy your game, Enjoy QANBA. We hope you like our fightsticks!

Qanba Dragon Arcade Joystick

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Qanba Crystal Wired USB Joystick

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Qanba Drone Arcade Joystick
June 2016
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8 Directions
Easy to learn
Easy to combo

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Qanba Guardian backpack
June 2016

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Qanba Carbon Arcade Joystick
June 2016

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"Defender" QanBa Fighting Stick backpack
April 2013

•Fits most modern joystick models up to 19 inches long
•Hemp-style durable fabric
•Detachable plush felt interior liner
•Dual snap-buckles for easy access
•Triple auxiliary zipper pockets
•Dual water bottle stretch pockets
•25 x 15 x 8 inches

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QANBA New Q1

•Products compatible systems compatible PS3 console, computers, automatic identification procedures
•Computer, no drivers, computer systems automatically identify connection, plug and play
•Use QANBA latest motherboard, support firmware upgrade
•PC/PS3 mode to support joystick bursts bursts need to meet the specific game
•Product added hidden closing box design, increasing the portable performance
•Re-define the the START key bit position, and function keys are embedded design to prevent the occurrence of misuse
•The back of the product design a removable fixture kit, more accurate operation
•State have folders without folder, the stick provides two operating angle selection. On the table at the same time there folder (placed in use) angle can adjust their own size
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QanBa Q2PRO
2012-5-18
Q2PRO Product Description:
The QanBa Q2pro is a quality arcade fight stick that uses top of the range Sanwa parts and is compatible with PlayStation 3 & PC. This QanBa Q2PRO is also compatible with left hand play joystick or right hand play joystick. Function control panel below buttons , Hidden carrying handle ,Firmware upgrade .It is very easy to mod, should you wish to change the joystick/buttons etc.
Q2PRO standard edition:Straight layout
Q2PRO Professional edition :Vewlix layout
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· Hidden carrying handle
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· USB Port (support PS3 USB Headset ,PS3 USB Keyboard)
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· compatible with left hand play joystick or right hand play joystick
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QanBa Q4
2012-2-28

QanBa Q4 eLivePro|Kindevu

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QanBa Q4 eLivepro|D44BAS


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2011-11-25

Q4 RAF ICE RED 3in1 coming

clear red case
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clear red handle
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sanwa clear buttons
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2011-11-12
Qanba stick Bag

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2011-8-28
Q4 RAF 3in1 (white)

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Q4 RAF 3in1 ice blue 6 button( Artwork design: MINSK, Germany )

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2011-7-10

Q4 RAF ICE-BLUE FOR PC release 10th July 2011 in China

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clear plexi

easy replace artwork

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sanwa joystick and sanwa buttons(OBSF-30DB,OBSF-24DB)

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Seimitsu joystick and PS-14-KN,OBSF-24

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blue translucent case

easy change joystick or buttons

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Sample 3D Artwork

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2011-3-18
Q4 RAF 3in1 will release 28th March 2011 in China
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2011-2-21

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Q3 Wired Fightstick Q3 QanBa-Empire(For PS3/PC 2in1) Will Listing

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Q3 Wired Fightstick Q3-XS(For XBOX360) Will Listing

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QanBa 3 PS3/PC 2in1 wireless joystick will listing

Sample Pics

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Brook Universal Fighting Board into a Hori SCV stick. Help appreciated.

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I recently picked up the version of the Brook Universal Fighting Board with all soldered headers (thanks, Paradise Arcade Shop). While I’m decent with wire strippers and a crimp tool, my soldering skills are surely not up to snuff. I’d like to avoid soldering if at all possible..

Here are the button functions that I’d really like to retain that are part of the sub pcb on the top button panel:
- PS
- Select
- L3
- R3

The following are nice-to-haves but really are not a priority:
- Port LEDs (1-4)

The rest I don’t care about at all (don’t use ‘em)
- Turbo
- Turbo LED
- Toggle switches

I’ve done my best to trace what’s what on the sub and main pcbs. Take a look and let me know if my guesses are correct.

Sub PCB
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Main PCB
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Now I see only one ground wire and one VCC wire on the sub pcb (well..at least feeding the right ribbon cable).

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But the Brook Universal Fighting Board manual states that I’ll need the following:
1. Dedicated Ground for Start/Select/PS
2. Dedicated Ground L3/R3
3. Dedicated VCC for Port LEDs

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I could most likely daisy chain a ground wire feeding from the Start button (off in the corner of the case). If that’s the case, I could then use the ribbon cable Ground wire (for L3/R3) and VCC wire (for the Port LEDs)…right?

This is making my head hurt, so thanks in advance for your input.

So what happened to Gamerfinger?

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Tried to order some Gamerfinger HBSF-G2 buttons, but it seems that they are discontinued? Does anyone know what happened, why is it not possible to order these buttons anymore?

UK Crimp tool

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Can anyone recommend which tool to get for Sanwa crimping?

Thanks.

Brook Universal PCB + MC Cthulhu PCB in one Joystick Case?

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Hello everyone, quick question. I've had a Brook Universal joystick I had made awhile back (still working perfectly), and I'd like to now if it's possible to add a MC Cthulhu PCB to the same joystick (without having to run another set of wires to each button and joystick).

Also would like to replace the USB Neutrik Pass-through I have in it with a RJ-45 Neutrik and then have everything go through the MC Cthulhu and then I can have multiple RJ-45 to Game Console cables (USB to RJ45, SNES to RJ45, Dreamcast to RJ45, etc...).

Is this possible?

Help me choose

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Hi guys

I have a simple question.. Where i live the razer panthera and Hori VLX Prem are both at the same price right now at 200 Eur.. What should i buy?
If it helps i mainly play sfv and inj2

Thanks a lot

Cable Management resource?

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Everyone who has a fancy custom arcade stick here always has immaculate cable management. But I can't seem to find youtube videos which really go indepths on how to do it for an arcade stick. Anyone else have any good resources to find out how to do top notch cable management so I don't end up with a bunch of loose wires?

Official FA Sparky PWM RGB LED Controller Thread

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Hey all,

Most players in Tech Talk are familiar with the works of Eugene Andruszczenko (aka 32Teeth), the creator of the highly programmable Sparky PWM RGB LED Controller. With his blessing to work with this open source project, and the help of Paradise Arcade, we now offering a great version of this product at Focusattack.com. It is shipping today and worldwide for just $32.95.

Purchase the Sparky RGB LED Controller at focusattack.com

What is the Sparky?

For those who aren't familiar with the Sparky RGB LED Controller is a programmable RGB LED companion light up activation controller for pushbuttons on gaming fightsticks. The controller allows you to create unlimited color combinations through varying levels of red green and blue, along with changing colors upon a combination of button press. It allows you to program lighting patterns either manually through specific button combinations, or via the "Configurator" - a multi-platform application that gives you total control over your color transitions.
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Sparky PWM Features

Among other features the Sparky PWM has the following:
  • Ability to display the full spectrum of color through RGB LEDs
  • Support for 6 or 8 button configurations
  • Ability to map color to specific buttons or button combinations (ie assign Red to Light Punch, Blue to Medium Kick, or Orange to Focus Attack (MP+MK))
While the Sparky PWM itself isn't new, the redesigned Sparky comes with 2 wiring harnesses to ease installation across buttons:
  • 5-wire RGB and ground harness
  • 16-wire power and .110 quick disconnect harness for buttons
To make the installation a solder-less experience, we currently include 34 wiring connectors. The connectors allow you to insert wires into the ports to replicate an electrical connection. Four per button are provided, plus one for each of the power connections for total of 34 connectors (8 x 4 plus 2, or 34 total).

Programming the Sparky PWM

The "Configurator" is a Windows and Mac OS X compatible application that interfaces with your joystick's LEDs through its USB port. Once connected, the application lets you choose your schema (button or button combination), then choose the color you want. You can also choose fade/fade out options. Once completed, the action is displayed on your button LED directly on your controller. You can download it on the Sparky website.

http://sparky.32teeth.org/downloads.html

So what is the point of this thread?

This thread is meant to address questions you might have regarding the redesigned Sparky PWM, plus how to program your Sparky to it's full potential. Several experienced builders will visit the thread to post notes, videos and answer some questions regarding both units. These people include
  • 32Teeth - creator of the original Sparky PWM LED Controller has offered to post helpful notes once he gets the new Sparky.
  • armi0024 - founder of Paradise Arcade Shop has expertise in many types of LED installs and components.
  • Nerrage - well known and respected member of SRK's Tech Talk team and founder of the non-profit organization Sticks for Joy.
And of course, you. We definitely welcome any feedback and helpful answers that you can give to players that ask questions here. We hope that this thread may complement the existing Sparky PWM thread here on SRK.

Resources

Related YouTube playlists Original Sparky RGB LED Controller Thread on SRK

Thanks for reading!

Sega Stick Appreciation Thread!

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We have the Namco thread and the Konami thread, but why not a Sega one???

Lets show some appreciation Gents.... Whether it be an HSS, VSHG, or any other Sega Stick, lets show some love.....

Heres my Freshly modded HSS-0130, currently has 2 DB25 Breakour boards with DB25 cables out the back to be run to Project Boxes.

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Everything fit perfectly insode this stick with no modifications needed. This is without a Doubt, the best stick I have ever owned. I took out the stock Panel (Keeping it in case I ever decide to sell this masterpiece) and dropped in a spare Seimitsu Panel I had. This panel has LS32's and Sanwa OSBF Buttons. This thing plays like a DREAM.
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