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What Stick/Controller Should I Buy? Read the Guide on Pg 1 Before Posting.

May 25, 2011, 6:41 am
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The "what stick/controller should I get" Guide.

Warning: This thread is heavily opinionated as are the nature of any product review. Movie and game reviews are heavily opinionated as well.
As well all have contrasting views on what is good/acceptable, as rule from the moderators, we shall not devolve into a VERSUS thread.
Personal opinions are fine, trying to argue that your favorite stick is better will not be tolerated. Do not confuse opinion with fact and vise versa.
Your Results/Mileage will vary. And don't ask for us to make a choice for you, I am not holding anyone's hand.

When it comes to my own reviews, I will not go through and point out what is my own opinions from what is fact (as my prerogative), and I encourage everyone to do your own fact finding research before you make a final conclusion for yourself. That is what google is for, finding your own research and making your own decisions.

Stop asking for Promo codes and sales for any Mad Catz or other products.
Mad Catz has a front page ad on SRK's homepage. If there any codes to be had it be ether there or a insider like MarkMan will share with us the good news via a post in Tech Talk.
You will find out when everyone else dose.

I will come back and edit and update this thread as needed so if you spot something wrong, let me know. And you other experts on Tech Talk, feel free to add your own wisdom and insight.
Yeah I am not having that any more, because I am a jerk.

Keep in mind I am purposely leaving out many limited edition and/or collectors sticks, as it goes outside the intentions of the guide. Collectors are going to collect.

ATTENTION ALL READERS
And I also like to keep custom sticks off the thread entirely, Custom sticks are outside of the scope of this guide and is considered off topic. If you want a custom stick go to the
Need a Modder in Your Area? or you can try the Trading Post.

If you have questions for a mod try the search function here at SRK or
The Absolute Noobie Thread Or The Info Thread: Rules FAQs and Tutorials
Please do not post build questions here.

And do not ask about Converters, Converts can be found here.
Converter Compatibility Thread

Quick tip on searching the forums. Courtesy of RosserRooster
If you ever want to search SRK google : site:shoryuken.com and then beside it put what your looking for bookmark it It makes searching SRK and so much easier and efficient

SRK vets should really advertise this more maybe it would cut down on some of the repetitive question...nah it wouldn't because people are too lazy to search for answers


At no time I will rate Sanwa or Seimitsu with each other or IL and Happs, or Japanese vs US/European vs Korean style parts.

Before I start with the cool part of this guide, we will first cover three more important objectives.
And what you need to consider above all else.
  • Needs
  • Wants
  • Budget
Needs. This covers what you absolutely have to have, strip down and basic. With any purchase this is what you should think of first. When it comes to Video Game controls this is usually covered by the Default game pad, only a few games require specialized controls or controls modified for those who have special needs. Example a One handed controller for a gamer who only have one useable arm.
I am assuming most people reading this guide now are hardcore fighter or arcade game fans who the regular d-pad is not cutting it for you, as we all hear complaints over the Xbox 360 or PS3 D-pad.

Wants. This is what you have your heart set for. For most people this is your end results.

Budget. This is how much money you have to spend. Budget is the more realistic and sobering part of the purchase process. Typically a stick will run you 60 to 250 dollars U.S. retail this figure will change with what the normal market price is in your region of the world.
Any stick you find less than $50 is not worth your money and breaks easy. Sticks more than $200 are no longer considered Beginner Sticks.
My general rule of thumb on these things: when in doubt, pass. I'd rather pay the few extra dollars and get one that I KNOW works than one that may or may not. My peace of mind is worth a few extra dollars

If you find some cheap stick or pad somewhere from questionable sources, consider it highly risky and pass. Usually what is too good to be true usually is.

Keep in mind if you are broke (Budget), and the default game pad works fine enough for you (Need) that these 2 will and should over ride your Wants.

Now I am also going to cover other features of each stick/ controller here. These factors are also important to cover but goes secondary to the above. I be using this on almost every stick I list here.
  • Quality
  • Reliability
  • Ease of Modification
  • Purpose or special use
Quick Short Cuts
Mad Catz
Hori
Sega
American/ European Style , Korean Style, Qanba and others

Unless otherwise noted, each sticks are for the PS3 and the Xbox 360.

Read about PlayStation 4 sticks here
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/195854/ps3-ps4-retail-arcade-sticks-list-with-information-facts-photos-etc-in-progress/p1

Difficulty Scale for Modding
From a scale of 1 to 5. This will factor in installing Buttons, Joysticks and replacement panels, and to a lesser extend PCB replacement.
This will not factor actual Dual-mods, replacement art or any painting.
  1. Easy: Standard parts drops right into place, reasonable access to all parts.
  2. Medium Easy: Still uses standard parts, access can be difficult/ time consuming
  3. Moderate Difficulty: Requires minor case modding or appropriate mount plates
  4. Medium hard: Requires some physical tool use to fit parts into place.
  5. Hard: Requires Heavy modding using tools to cut, grind or drill to fit replacement parts.
Last but not least I ask readers to go outside of this thread and do your research. Read reviews here on SRK and reviews on online stores and in magazines. Weigh the Pros and Cons before deciding which stick to get. And stop posting new threads on what stick you should buy, its why this thread is sticked.

How to Win at eBay.
Keep in mind eBay is not an online store. eBay is a listing and auction service, you are buying from that individual seller not eBay. And Every Seller is different.
For Experienced sellers who sold hundreds if not thousands, Look for sellers with a Feedback score of 99.5% rating or better. Huge time sellers with a 95% or lower are to be avoided like the plague. Pay attention to the text in the negative feedbacks, check to see if the negative feedbacks buyers actually have an issue or they are just jerks.
For people with a hundred sales or less, if they do not have a 100% rating, avoid them.

*When Bidding
Never, ever bid early. You only drive the price up higher.
Wait till the last possible minute, sometimes the last possible twelve seconds.
Also decide in advance the maximum you want to bid.

*How to know if you have a good price or not
Swing over to the reviews on PAGE 1 (it is required for this thread). I did not list the current price of a stick, I listed there original MSRP (or close to it). With the exception for huge collectors’ items avoid sticks that price them higher than I have them listed. (Examples Comic Con TE, Chun Li TE is going to be priced higher than other TEs) Many sellers have a terrible habit of over inflating the price of their sticks thinking the Market will bear, do not fall for it.
Also beware for sticks that are market high and are not in NEW/ Close to NEW condition. DO NOT pay full price on "customized sticks" with a few exceptions. Otherwise only pay full price on sticks that are keep stock.

Those exceptions are:
* Sticks that do not come as Full Sanwa or Full Seimitsu (they used knock off Parts instead of authentic parts) are modded to be all authentic buttons and joystick. Example finding a Mad Catz WWE Brawl Stick that has a JLF and Sanwa buttons installed. You should not pay any more than (approx) 10% more than the cost of the stick + cost of the new parts.
* Sticks that has been professionally Dual-Moded (if in doubt ask someone in SRK TT) The pricing should be cost of the stick + Dual Mod PCB Cost + 10% to 25% of the stick for labor.
* Older era (Decades old sticks such as SNES and Genesis/MegaDrive Era and back) sticks that are refurbish. Many of these are collector items.

As for buying online outside the United States? This is a tricky issue as each countries fighting game scene is different.
The market strong in Parts of Asia (like Japan or S. Korea), Europe (mostly Western Europe), Australia and Canada (maybe Mexico) otherwise you have to eat heavily shipping costs.
Tip for you guys overseas is try to find a seller in your home country first if possible, better if he is in your home province/area.
If that not possible look at neighboring Countries that are friendly to your own. Example You are living in Span, try a French, British or German Seller if you can't find someone in Spain (yes I know they are not right next to each other).

Here is another VERY GOOD guide for buying on eBay
It is on a website for cameras and photography but everything on that guide applies to arcade sticks as well. Just that all their examples are photography related.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/ebay/
P.S. Ken Rockwell is also having great advice and tips on photography.

Also there is no such thing as a "BEGINNER STICK" so do not ask. There are no Training Wheels in the FGC.

Also there is the thread FrankCastleAZ started, I am defaulting anything said to his thread.

DEFINITIVE PS4/PS3 RETAIL ARCADE STICKS LIST WITH INFO/FACTS/PHOTOS/ADVANTAGES/DISADVANTAGES/ETC
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/195854/definitive-ps4-ps3-retail-arcade-sticks-list-with-info-facts-photos-advantages-disadvantages-etc/p1
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Venom arcade stick PS4/PS3

February 3, 2015, 9:49 am
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Hi guys!
do you have heard anything about the Venom PS4 arcade stick? I take a look at the description and photos(since it´s the only thing we got) and it looks like the mayflash V2, the case looks the same used on the mayflash v2.
Since the descrition says it has premium quality parts (I dont know what they call premium quality parts) I assume it comes with sanwa or seimitsu parts. The color of the buttons and balltop looks navy, so maybe it has the PS-15 navy(I dont believe but it´s the only quality buttons I know with that color). The price is 75€($86), a nice chance to get a PS4 stick. It looks nice btw, here is some photos:

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I was looking on the net and I found other PS4 stick with the same name but different in all aspects, looks a kind of cheap one, here is it:

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Anyone ever opened up a Hori Ehrgeiz Stick?

February 10, 2017, 9:53 pm
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I've got one of these little beauties coming in the mail from overseas right now and I'd like to upgrade it with a Sanwa JLF joystick and some Seimitsu PS-14-KN buttons when it arrives, but I've had absolutely zero luck finding any pictures of what the stick looks like on the inside so I'm not sure what all supplies I'll need to do the upgrade. I have done the same JLF + Seimitsu buttons upgrade to a Hori T5 stick before, so I'm definitely prepared to drill out the restrictor plate and desolder the original buttons from the PCB then wire it up if that's what will be necessary, I'm just hoping that someone might be able to post a picture or two of the inside of one of these Ehrgeiz Sticks so I'll know whether it can be upgraded the same way as a Hori T5 or if a different procedure will be required.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
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Can you make a Crown 303-FK silent?

March 1, 2017, 11:51 pm
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Im a family these days so being able to play without waking up the house is pretty key for me. I have been getting more and more curious to try the Crown 303-FK but was wondering if I could change the microswitches to the Omron D2RV-G switches instead since I believe those are the silent ones. Any Idea if I can just add levers to the switches? If anyone has some knowledge please help me out :).
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Madcatz Street Fighter V Fightstick Alpha

August 29, 2015, 5:21 pm
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I'll keep this thread updated with all details of this stick as it's released including links to mods etc once they happen


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Madcatz Street Fighter V Fightstick Alpha for PS4/PS3

Release Date-
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SRK Front Page article via @d3v -
http://shoryuken.com/2015/08/31/mad-catz-unveils-street-fighter-v-arcade-stick-and-controller

Case-
Fightstick Alpha Case (New/Original Design)
=Weight (Unknown)
=Dimentions (Unknown)
=6 button Vewlix design (Prototype looks like it has a slightly larger gap between LP/LK buttons and MP/MK buttons)

Metal Panels-
=Unknown

Plexi/Art-
=Unlikely to have any future plexi option due to case design (No where to screw in plexi and curved base front)

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=Has some type of padding (Specifics unknown)
=Does not appear to have feet in stock photo (Unknown)

Joystick-
=Unknown

Buttons-
=Unknown

PCB-
=Unknown

Wiring-
=Unknown

USB Cable-
=Wired
=Unknown if cable is removable



Finished mods from community-
=Not available at this time



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I won't make too many assumptions, but it looks like a budget stick. (EDIT- It is)
I believe we need more budget sticks on the market to get more new fighting game players familiar with using arcade sticks at a reasonable cost.

The base looks a bit thin by the photo, so I'm unsure if a JLF shaft would clear that. (EDIT- Likely will be high enough to swap joysticks, mentioned mod friendly by MarkMan on Twitter)

May not be Sanwa parts to keep costs low.

It's cooler (6 button) instead of dick (8 button) which is BADASS (This sentence is an SRK Tech Talk inside joke. Don't take it personally)
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Feedback on Hori Hayabusa dead zone?

March 1, 2017, 6:48 pm
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Hello all,

So i have been practicing Potemkin's 6k loop (GG xrd rev) probably the most hardest and technical combo in the game even harder then some of Ino's combos. But after long time practicing with my Sanwa JLF-TPRG-8AYT-SK Silent + Kowal 1mm actuator i can do it love the stick btw feels fast, smooth and silent. However i tried different sticks:

Regular Sanwa JLF + kowal = not very good diagonals have issues compared to the Sanwa silent and overall not as snappy as the silent version oddly enough
Seimitsu LS-40-01 this one is GREAT i could do the 6k loop relatively easy even if i had no adjustment time to the stick overall superb stick
Seimitsu LS-32-01 after some adjusting i could manage 6k loop maybe getting used to it more will solve it...

However the Hori Hayabusa which i modded by sanding down the 1mm Kowal actuator at its edges did shorten the trow but damn i have some major difficulty doing the 6k loop (6k loop needs extreme reaction and speed 2 or 3 frames leniency it involves charging which must be done very fast before the prior move comes out)

So is this due to the sticks "dead zone" or "Throw" or "Engage"? No matter how fast i input the stick simply does not cooperate once i switch to LS-40-01 and Sanwa JLF silent i could do my 6k loop. Its a shame i do like the feel of the hayabusa since every other combo comes out smooth. Your thoughts on dead zone, throw, engage on the Hayabusa and why i am having issues? Maybe the Hayabusa is great for none extreme timing combos but for the 6k loop its very dissapointing.

Thx in advance
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Brook Sniper: Giving the FGC (& FPSC) Options

March 2, 2017, 10:21 pm
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Brook released the sniper and one of the ancillary features is the usb port on the back. It basically acts as a plug and play UFB. I've tried every unboxed stick & pad I own from various consoles at it and so far it works on the PS4 and is hot swappable. Also there is a 3.5mm input for audio\voice on PS4, an easier way to use your 3.5mm headsets with sticks and pads lacking this option and for folks not using USB\BT headsets.
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•End goal is to provide a comprehensive list of everything you need to know about this converter and with it's unique properties I believed it was owed its own thread. As I have more time (If you own the Brook Sniper as well feel free to post your own discoveries or tests and I'll update this OP) with the sniper I plan to test & upload video(s) on the following;

Input Lag
  • Will use the 60fps recorded video method on USFIV & then SFV per pad/stick.
  • Will test input lag with eTokki PSXto360 & Brook PS2toPS4 adapter.
  • Will compare inpit lag with a native PS4 stick plugged in directly to the PS4 and the same PS4 stick plugged into the Brook Sniper as a pass through.

Compatibility With Other Consoles
  • 360, XB1, PS3, PC & MAC

Disassembly & The Guts of This Device
  • Mini UFB inside?
  • Modular?
  • Can it be scaled down and used specifically for the converter and 3.5mm headset properties?

Valuable Use
  • I can see the Sniper being used at your local eSport Centers or even zealous TOs. Mount two of these adapters to each PS4/Console and advertise the ability for customers/contestants to bring the Stick/Pad of their choice from any console. Large investment but only need to bring multiple adapters, and caters to FPS crowd as well.
  • Players with multiple adapters can consolidate into this one adapter albeit a larger form factor, unless we find we can scale down the adapter's pcbs.
  • Brook future support for Tournament Mode, I've tested some Macros for Keyboard\Mouse on a FPS but haven't tried creating a Macro for SFV.
  • The micro USB has a USB that has another USB piggy backed onto it. Only 1 of the USB's need to be plugged into the console, the other USB is only needed if your KB&M draw enough current to require it or the Gamepad\Arcade Stick port draws enough current to require it. Only plugging in the primary USB frees up a only other USB port available on the original PS4s. A powered USB hub can be used here as needed as well.
  • I can use my mechanical keyboard as a hit box! Kind of, worked fine for shotos but I could not register a 360 motion in SFV? Will try USFIV and other fighters\consoles.
  • Pad\Stick and KB&M all remain under 1 PSN profile
  • Hotswapping a Pad\Stick when a KB&M is plugged in doesn't trigger a new PSN profile login (saves a few seconds of next user to just sit down and play instead of picking a PSN profile)
  • Hotswapping a Pad Stick without KB&M plugged in untested
  • 3.5mm Audio plugin support for PS4, untested for other consoles but brooks advertises it only works for PS4

    I'very started a video series for Brook for providing this review unit from a FPS perspective;
    The playlist will stay the same but will automatically have more videos on the playlist as the videos reach their scheduled date and time for public viewing.
    • Unboxing Video @ 3/3/17
    • Initial Impression for FPS/OW @ 3/4/17
    • 5 Weekly Videos @ 3/5/17 and every Sunday for 5 wk.'s, follows a Master Rank Overwatch player go from DS4 to a Corsair Strafe KB & a Razer Imperator
    • Final Impression for use on FPS/OW: Available after 5th week
    • Comparison to Xim4 @ TBD
    • Hotswapping Sticks and pads demonstration on PS4 @ TBD
    • Various Input Lag test @ TBD

    **I Will update the first post with the new info as it's created and post the new edits in the reply posts.
    **If you own a Brook Sniper or have access to one anything you test or discover update the rest of us and I'll add it to this OP.
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The Wood Workers Thread

May 22, 2009, 10:17 am
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Currently I've noticed a lot of threads opened up for worklogs and basic building advice, so I wanted to create a thread geared specifically towards woodworking (lets mash em' together). If you are a first time builder looking for a little help or a veteran builder who wants to exchange ideas about your next projects, go over different techniques (hell even your best accidents) here's the place. If you would like to post pics of your work in production for assistance or to show off your workshop.

If asking questions please list your current tools/paint/finishing supplies as there may be someone out there with a few tips or tricks specific to the brand you're using ;)
My current setup:
Dewalt table saw
Custom Router Table
Craftsman Router
Porter Cable Router
Ryobi router 1/4" collet w/table
Vintage industrial floor standing drill press
Rigid Bandsaw
Leigh Dovetail jig

Great sites to visit for general woodworking info:

Sawdust Making 101 a guide for the beginning woodworker
WoodNet.net - The Woodworker's Online Resource
Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
LumberJocks Woodworking Forums @ LumberJocks.com ~ woodworking community

Stores to check out for exotic and domestic wood
Exotic Hardwood Lumber and Woodworkers Supplies | WoodworkersSource.com **excellent store
Woodworking Plans & Tools | Fine Woodworking Project & Supplies at Woodcraft

Recommended Dyes for Staining

Transtint
TransTint Dyes - Woodcraft.com

Water Based
General Finishes Water Based Dyes - Woodcraft.com

Helpful guide for case construction wiring and so much more

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Need help with Hori Fighting Edge

March 3, 2017, 7:29 am
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Recently I've noticed that when I put the stick in tournament mode or configuration mode it no longer beeps. Tried it on both pc and ps3 and still nothing. While its a small "issue" I'm just curious what could of caused it. It is also a non modded stick.
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File could not be found

March 3, 2017, 6:52 am
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Hi all.
The problem is when opening doc format file in Microsoft Word I'm receiving an error, ‘File could not be found’.
Also I cannot open the file in LibreOffice.

I'm running Windows 8

Any ideas how to fix doc file? Will really appreciate.
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Hori RAP 4 Kai model differences?

March 3, 2017, 9:59 am
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Hey so I wanted to buy Hori RAP4 Kai for PS4 but I saw that there are different models out there but Im not sure what are the differences and which one is better? What I saw is one model has PS Button in the middle and another one has it as the last button. Also there are different product numbers PS4-015U or PS4-015E. Which one should I pick and why also what exactly are the differences between them maybe it doesnt really matter?
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can anyone help me fix my arcade stick please ( made from a PS3 controller)

March 3, 2017, 12:18 pm
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sorry for my english , its not my native language so... anyway
im having trouble with my arcade stick, now i cant get it to work, everytime i plug on the pc, the stick doesnt recognize as an joystick, and it keeps showing theres something wrong with the usb

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so, i reinstalled windows, all drivers are up to date and then, i figured out that when i move the usb cable inside the arcade stick, it disconnects and reconnects, but it doesnt recognize yet, looks like the usb cable itself is screwed up

this is the scheme of my arcade stick

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i checked the usb wiring and its like this

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im not sure if its something wrong, or outworn
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Omron d2rv-g-sd2 microswitch for Sanwa

March 3, 2017, 8:20 pm
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Hello guys,

Is there a place i can order these switches looked everywhere but no luck i would like to have some back up switches for my Sanwa JLF-TPRG-8AYT-SK.
Tried paradise shop they do sell the pcb with the switches for 45 bucks but damn shipment to Europe costs me 85 bucks!!

Thx in advance
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Xbone Padhack Triggers

March 3, 2017, 10:44 pm
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Wasn't really getting anywhere in the other thread so I figured start my own and see if anyone can help haha.

I recently tried to padhack a first party xbone controller, most of it is working, except for the triggers.
Feel like they're hooked up properly as I've followed the most common setup (i.e. 100ohm resistor in the positive line coming off the pcb and which points it's connected to).
Sadly they don't seem to be working still, a friend tried testing with a multi-meter and it seemed to get an input going from the solder I'd added to the board to the grounding pin on the back of the button, but no other times.

My PCB feat. messy as hell wires.
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Right Trigger: it's not soldered over the IC here, it just hangs over, cause these are a bitch to solder.
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Left Trigger
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Any insight would be greatly appreciated, I have no idea why it isn't working and really just want to play my KI and BB happily :(
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TECH TALK SECRET SANTA 2016

November 10, 2016, 9:52 pm
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Better late then never. Here is our Annual Secret Santa Thread

Here is a link to last years thread for reference
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/202617/tech-talk-secret-santa-2015/p1

We are starting late this year so I going to have to accelerate the time tables.

Now to Steal from Jame's old post with some edits for this year (as I am also lazy).

Here are this year's rules:
  • Member must be 2015 or earlier Join Date.
  • $20 minimum without shipping.
  • Gift Cards are not allowed, unless your Recipient requests.
  • Along with the $20 minimum gift(s), you must include a handmade card and something unexpected.
  • You must have the package shipped and trackable by December 15, 2016 (You have to PM me the Tracking Number).
  • Instant Ban if you do not send a gift.
Eligibility
  • You must be 2015 or older.
  • If you are 2016, you need to have at least 50 Posts in Tech Talk.
  • If you are 2016 without 50 Posts, then you need someone to vouch.
  • If you vouch for someone, you are also responsible if your vouchee does bad.
Shipping
  • You will ship the package to your Recipient by December 15, 2016.
  • When you ship, you must e-mail to me a picture of the package or receipt.
  • If you are in the US I will pair you with US, Canada to Canada, UK to UK, etc.
  • If you are willing to ship Internationally please indicate it during signup.
Signup
  • Post a picture of your SRK Handle on paper; be creative.
  • With the picture, post the following information:
SRK Handle
Join Date
Ship International
Three Liked Item
  • Signup ends on November 25, 2016.
  • When signups are done, I will randomize a list.
  • Participants will only know who they are shipping to.
  • Participants will not know who they will be receiving from.
The liked items is to let your Santa know about you.
To know what to maybe get you.

Have fun!
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ps2/ps3/pc mayflash universal fightstick

March 4, 2017, 4:32 am
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Hi,
I bought one of these recently so i could play all my old ps2 games on an actual ps2 console . It was very cheap like under £30.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0015PHMFU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488630624&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=universal+arcade+stick&dpPl=1&dpID=41-3eP-2doL&ref=plSrch

I watched some vids on youtube about people modding them. Because im not too bothered about all sanwa parts for this (im reserving those sanwa parts for my ps4 venom stick). Could i still stick an octagonal gate in the mayflash universal fightstick, so basically just replacing the square with an octo?

Any other info?

Thanks
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Questions about the Qanba Dragon and Obsidian

March 4, 2017, 1:11 pm
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So i'm looking for a new stick to buy to eventually convert to a hitbox and I really like the look of the Obsidian and the Dragon. I noticed that below their plexi is this metal plate that seems fairly easy to remove. To anyone who owns these sticks, are the metal plates easy to remove, and will doing so hurt the stability of the stick?
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Change Microswitches Sanwa JLF

January 22, 2017, 4:55 am
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The Microswitches of Sanwa Jlf are soldier at PCB?
I want to change the Microswitches of Omron because i think there is snagging with the microswitches are good idea to change by Zippy Microswithches to avoid snagging
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Hori Real Arcade Pro Thread for all versions (IN PROGRESS, COULD USE YOUR HELP AND INPUT) v2

April 6, 2015, 8:57 pm
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This post is in progress and will forever need updating.


NOT ALL INFO IS 100% CORRECT! SO IF YOU ARE USING THE DESCRIPTIONS TO MAKE PURCHASES, PLEASE DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH. A LOT OF THE INFORMATION BELOW IS COPY/PASTE.


IF YOU ARE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE INFORMATION, PHOTOS, DETAILS, OR PERHAPS EVEN HELP DO RESEARCH USING THE LINKS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS FIRST POST IN SPOILER TAGS AND REPORT BACK, IT IS MUCH APPRECIATED.




It's taken me a lot of time to gather this information up so far, put it in a neat format, find photos and resize etc. If you can volunteer to help for the good of all arcade stick lovers and SRK TT, please do.








First off, I've gotta shout out @Superking for the original post back in July 2005 and for the work he did in keeping track of info and data on the Hori RAP sticks at least up until the middle of the PS2 gen and some of the PS3/360 gen.
Below you'll see the info he organized reworked in a new format with more info and photos.

Original thread (39 pages of topic from July 2005 to mostly April 2012)
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/13083/hori-real-arcade-pro-faq-for-all-versions/p1

Shoutouts to those who've helped provide information on this updated list that deserve credit for their contributions:

@hibachifinal @VirtualCosmic @Darksakul @NENDO @Digital- @quashpdarkman @N10248 @anzhar @Batsu @General_Awesomo

If you have general arcade stick questions, please ask in the "Absolute Question and Answer Thread v.3 (ASK YOUR QUESTIONS HERE!)" thread
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/194283/absolute-question-and-answer-thread-v-3-ask-your-questions-here

If you desire information on other arcade sticks that are not listed here or want suggestions on what to buy, please visit the "What Stick/Controller Should I Buy? Read the Guide on Pg 1 Before Posting." thread
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/137321/what-stick-controller-should-i-buy-read-the-guide-on-pg-1-before-posting/p1

There will be no tier list, and there will likely not be a "I SUGGEST YOU BUY ________ ARCADE STICK" info.

This is information for you to use to your advantage to make an independent decision based on what features you may or may not enjoy.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not come in to this thread and just ask "Which one should I buy?".
Use knowledge below to grow, think, and learn.



Listed in order of console:


Playstation 1 / Playstation 2
Playstation 1 / Playstation 2
Playstation 1 / Playstation 2
Playstation 1 / Playstation 2
Playstation 1 / Playstation 2


Hori-RAP1-Mirror-01.jpg

Hori RAP1
=Hori Real Arcade Pro (Mirror Finish)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg or 5.7 lbs)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Mirror finish looks nice but is easily susceptible to scratches and fingerprints
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK
=Mounting a Seimitsu LS-32 is possible with modification, previous documentation lost to GeoCities

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
+Quick disconnects for buttons allowing easy swap
=Unsure if joystick connection is 5 pin or soldered on individual microswitches

Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-CFJ-01.jpg

Hori RAP CFJ
=Hori Capcom Fighting Jam

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK


Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
+Quick disconnects for buttons allowing easy swap
=Unsure if joystick connection is 5 pin or soldered on individual microswitches

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP1-Orange-01.jpg

Hori RAP1
-Hori Real Arcade Pro Orange Amazon Exclusive

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions-
=What is the official title for this arcade stick from Hori?
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP1SA-01.jpg

Hori RAP1 SA
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Special Addition
=Special Addition also can be viewed as Hori's way of saying Sanwa (SA)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-Sanwa OBSF-30RG and OBSF-24 in custom Vermilion color

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP1SE-01.jpg

Hori RAP1 SE
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Special Edition
=Special Edition also can be viewed as Hori's way of saying Seimitsu (SE)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Seimitsu LS-32-01

Buttons-
-Seimitsu PS-14-GX

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-AH1-01.jpg

Hori AH1
=Hori Arcana Heart Arcade Stick
(unsure of official title since it's difficult to find data on now)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (___________)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
-Buttons mounted on PCB instead of having own quick disconnects

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-AH2-01.jpg

Hori AH2
=Hori Arcana Heart 2 Arcade Stick
(unsure of official title since it's difficult to find data on now)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (___________)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Buttons-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
-Buttons mounted on PCB instead of having own quick disconnects

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-FUC-01.jpg

Hori FUC-LE
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Stick Fate/Unlimited Codes Limited Edition
(unsure of official title since it's difficult to find data on now)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (___________)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Buttons-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP2-01.jpg

Hori RAP2
=Hori Real Arcade Pro 2

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP2SA-01.jpg

Hori RAP2 SA
=Hori Real Arcade Pro 2 Special Addition
=Special Addition also can be viewed as Hori's way of saying Sanwa (SA)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-Sanwa OBSF-30 (Blue) and OBSF-24 (Dark Hai specifically made for this stick)

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-SCIII-01.jpg

HRAP SCIII
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Soul Calibur III

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
-Buttons mounted on PCB instead of having own quick disconnects

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-Tekken5JP-01.jpg

HRAP Tekken 5 JP
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Tekken 5

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-Tekken5US-01.jpg

HRAP Tekken 5 10th Anniversary
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Tekken 10th Anniversary

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
-Hori

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS2/PS1 connector exits plastic base
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT




Playstation 3
Playstation 3
Playstation 3
Playstation 3
Playstation 3
Hori-RAP3-01.jpg

HRAP3
=Hori Real Arcade Pro 3

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-Hori stock buttons

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS3 cable exits base on back
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP3SA-01.jpg

HRAP3 SA
=Hori Real Arcade Pro. SA

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight ___________
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Nuts and bolts for top metal panel are difficult to remove and assemble
=Top loaders available via Tek Innovations allowing removal and assembly of top metal panel easier

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
+Sanwa OBSF-30, OBSF-24

PCB-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

Wiring-
=NEED INFO/DETAILS

USB Cable-
=PS3 cable exits base on back
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP3-SE-01.jpg

Hori RAP 3 SE
=Hori Real Arcade Pro. 3 SE

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key
+Universal Joystick mount

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Seimtisu LS-32-01

Buttons-
+Seimitsu PS-14-G, PS-14-D

PCB-
=same as HRAP 3

Wiring-
+Buttons are quick disconnects
+5-pin Joystick Harness

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP3AA-01.jpg

Hori RAP 3 Amazon JP
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Amazon.co.jp Edition

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs


Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
+Easy Top Panel access through Hex key
+Universal Joystick mount

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-HORI stock buttons

PCB-
=same as HRAP 3

Wiring-
+Buttons are quick disconnects
+5-pin Joystick Harness

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-RAP-N3-SA-01.jpg

Hori RAP N3 SA
=Hori Real Arcade Pro N3-SA

Release date: 2014

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=Unique door over recessed mounting for Start button slides into pocket within case when opened.

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Top panel bolts can be removed with Allen key for easy installation of plexi and art.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF

Buttons-
+Sanwa OBSF-30

PCB-
=Common ground

Wiring-
=Buttons have quick disconnect wiring
=Joystick has 5-pin JST connector

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=Plastic door cord compartment

Hori-RAPBlaz-01.jpg

Hori RAP 3 BlazBlue
=Hori Real Arcade Pro. 3 BlazBlue

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
+Exclusive blue case

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
-Two-point Joystick Mount (Seimtisu VF/JLF Wings)

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-HORI stock buttons

PCB-
=same as HRAP 3

Wiring-
-Buttons are PCB Mounted
+5-pin Joystick Harness

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

Hori-DoA5-PS3-01.jpg

Hori RAP Dead or Alive 5
=Hori Real Arcade Dead or Alive 5

Release date: 2012

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
= Unique door over recessed mounting for Start button slides into pocket within case when opened.

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Top panel bolts can be removed with Allen key for easy installation of plexi and art.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF

Buttons-
+Sanwa OBSF-30

PCB-
=Both common ground

Wiring-
=Buttons have quick disconnect wiring
=Joystick has 5-pin JST connector


USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=Plastic door cord compartment



Hori-RAP-MSGEVS-01.jpg

Hori RAP Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme V.S.
=Hori Real Arcade Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme V.S.

Release date: 2011

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=Unique door over recessed mounting for Start button slides into pocket within case when opened.

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Top panel bolts can be removed with Allen key for easy installation of plexi and art.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK with dark blue balltop

Buttons-
+Sanwa OBSF-30

PCB-
=Common ground

Wiring-
=Buttons have quick disconnect wiring
=Joystick has 5-pin JST connector

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=Plastic door cord compartment

Hori-RAP-MSGEVSFB-01.jpg

Hori RAP Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme V.S. Full Boost
=Hori Real Arcade Pro AX S+G

Release date: 2014

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=Unique door over recessed mounting for Start button slides into pocket within case when opened.
=Full Boost version is the only version with transparent door over Start button.

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Top panel bolts can be removed with Allen key for easy installation of plexi and art.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF

Buttons-
+Sanwa OBSF-30

PCB-
=Common ground

Wiring-
=Buttons have quick disconnect wiring
=Joystick has 5-pin JST connector

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=Plastic doored cord compartment

Hori-SFIV-01.jpg

Hori SFIV
=Hori Street Fighter IV Arcade Stick
(unsure if this is "official" title)
(Does not have RAP in the name but is same build/parts)

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=Black case


Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
-Two-point Joystick Mount (Seimtisu VF/JLF Wings)

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Red/Black theme with Ryu & Ken

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK with Red Balltop

Buttons-
-HORI stock buttons (Red)

PCB-
=same as HRAP 3 (assumed)

Wiring-
-Buttons mounted on PCB instead of having own quick disconnects
=Unsure whether joystick is 5 pin harness or individual soldered on microswitches

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

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Hori RAP Soul Caliber V
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Soul Caliber V

Release date: 2012

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
= Unique door over recessed mounting for Start button slides into pocket within case when opened.

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Top panel bolts can be removed with Allen key for easy installation of plexi and art.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF

Buttons-
+Sanwa OBSF-30

PCB-
=Both common ground

Wiring-
=Buttons have quick disconnect wiring
=Joystick has 5-pin JST connector

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=Plastic door cord compartment

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Hori RAP 3 Tekken 6
=Hori Real Arcade Pro. 3 Tekken 6

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=Black base

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
=Type of joystick unknown (Black balltop)

Buttons-
=Type of button unknown (Dark Hai color)

PCB-
=Same as HRAP 3 (Assumed)

Wiring-
=Unsure if buttons are quick disconnects or soldered to PCB
=Unsure if joystick is 5-pin harness or soldered to microswitches

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT

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Hori RAP 3 Tekken Tag 2 Prologue
=Hori Real Arcade Pro. 3 Tekken Tag 2 Prologue
+Last ever Original HRAP design produced

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
-Two-point Joystick Mount (Seimtisu VF/JLF Wings), uses the JLF mounting plate points
+Namco NOIR Layout

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK

Buttons-
-HORI stock buttons

PCB-
=Same as HRAP 3

Wiring-
+Buttons are quick disconnects
+5-pin Joystick Harness

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=No cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=TO EDIT


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Hori RAP Tekken Tag Tournament 2
=Hori Real Arcade Pro Tekken Tag Tournament 2

Release date: 2011

SRKTT thread-
=Unknown

Case-
RAP Base
=Weight (2.6 kg)
=Sizes - Width = 412mm, Depth = 243mm, Height (including lever) = 135mm
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces
+Same design/production base by major company for multiple consoles made swapping parts and getting 3rd party support easier
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
= Unique door over recessed mounting for Start button slides into pocket within case when opened.

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Plexi options available via Tek Innovations
=Top panel bolts can be removed with Allen key for easy installation of plexi and art.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four rubber feet

Joystick-
+Sanwa JLF

Buttons-
+Sanwa OBSF-30

PCB-
=Both common ground

Wiring-
=Button s have quick disconnect wiring
=Joystick has 5-pin JST connector

USB Cable-
=USB 2.0
=Plastic doored cord compartment

Playstation 4 / Playstation 3
Playstation 4 / Playstation 3
Playstation 4 / Playstation 3
Playstation 4 / Playstation 3
Playstation 4 / Playstation 3

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Hori RAP V4
=Hori Real Arcade Pro V4 Hayabusa for PS4 & PS3

SRKTT thread-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/189004/hori-hrap-v4-announced-compatible-with-ps3-and-ps4/p1

Case-
Hori Case (Same as RAPV3/RAPVX/UMvC3/DoA models for PS3/360)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces.
=Sizes - Width = 430mm, Depth = 240mm, Height (including lever) = 125mm
=Weight (2.2kg)
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Default artwork can leave a sticky residue when removing
+Tek Innovations does have plexi option (Same as V3/VX non-Kai)

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four small rubber feet

Joystick-
=Hori Hayabusa joystick

Buttons-
=Hori Kuro buttons

PCB-
=Common ground. Unsure if active high/low. Unsure if able to multi-mod without complications due to insufficient testing.
+Easy to remove main PCB from base
=Button signals/grounds, and USB cable are soldered to PCB while joystick connector and ribbon cables to Turbo/Home PCB are removable from main PCB

Wiring-
=Typical

USB Cable-
=Wire and cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
-Is the PCB possible to multi-mod with? We know it's common ground, but we don't have if is active high/low.

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Hori RAP V4 Silent
=Hori Real Arcade Pro V4 Silent Hayabusa for PS4 & PS3

SRKTT thread-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/189004/hori-hrap-v4-announced-compatible-with-ps3-and-ps4/p1
(Same thread as non-silent version)

Case-
Hori Case (Same as RAPV3/RAPVX/UMvC3/DoA models for PS3/360)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces.
=Sizes - Width = 430mm, Depth = 240mm, Height (including lever) = 125mm
=Weight (2.2kg)
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Default artwork can leave a sticky residue when removing
+Tek Innovations does have plexi option (Same as V3/VX non-Kai)

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four small rubber feet

Joystick-
=Hori Hayabusa joystick with optical switches

Buttons-
=Hori Kuro buttons with silencer pads

PCB-
=Common ground. Unsure if active high/low. Unsure if able to multi-mod without complications due to insufficient testing.
+Easy to remove main PCB from base
-Button signals/grounds, and USB cable are soldered to PCB while joystick connector and ribbon cables to Turbo/Home PCB are removable from main PCB

Wiring-
=Typical

USB Cable-
=Wire and cord compartment

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=Is the PCB possible to multi-mod with? We know it's common ground, but we don't have if is active high/low.

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Hori RAP 4 Kai
=Hori Real Arcade Pro 4 Kai for PS4 & PS3

SRKTT thread-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/195974/hrap4-kai-initial-impressions
(Same thread as HRAP 4 Kai/HRAP.V Hayabusa)

Case-
Hori Case (New form factor upgrade from RAPV3/RAPVX/RAPV4 style where buttons are now on the side instead of on top/face)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces.
=Sizes: Width = 430mm, Depth = 237mm, Height (including lever) = 114mm
=Weight (2.2kg)
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=PS4 touch panel on back

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
=RAP 4 Kai has Vewlix layout with wider spread between joystick and buttons

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Default artwork can leave a sticky residue when removing
=Undetermined whether a plexi via Tek Innovations for V3/VX would still fit properly. Even if changed, it's unlikely they wouldn't have a plexi for it in the near future.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=Padding on bottom where stick sits on legs
=No feet

Joystick-
=Hori Hayabusa joystick

Buttons-
=Hori Kuro buttons

PCB-
=Common ground PCB (Same as HRAP 4 Kai/HRAP.V/DoA5LR)
=Multiple PCBs (main PCB, side PCB, touch screen)
=Touch screen PCB is connected to main PCB using a small ribbon cable
=Side PCB is connected to main PCB using two standard molex style connectors
=Joystick is connected to main PCB using a standard molex style connector
=Buttons are connected to main PCB by solder and glue
=USB cable is connected to main PCB by using a standard molex style connector

Wiring-
-Signal/Ground wires are soldered on to buttons

USB Cable-
=Wire and cord compartment
=Cable length (3m)

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=Is the PCB the same for both models of this body type?
=Is the PCB possible to multi-mod with? We know it's common ground, but we don't have if is active high/low.

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Hori RAP.V
=Hori Real Arcade Pro.V Hayabusa for PS4 & PS3

SRKTT thread-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/195974/hrap4-kai-initial-impressions
(Same thread as HRAP 4 Kai/HRAP.V Hayabusa)

Case-
Hori Case (New form factor upgrade from RAPV3/RAPVX/RAPV4 style where buttons are now on the side instead of on top/face)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces.
=Sizes: Width = 430mm, Depth = 237mm, Height (including lever) = 114mm
=Weight (2.2kg)
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=PS4 touch panel on back

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
=Vewlix layout with standard spread between joystick and buttons

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Default artwork can leave a sticky residue when removing
=Undetermined whether a plexi via Tek Innovations for V3/VX would still fit properly. Even if changed, it's unlikely they wouldn't have a plexi for it in the near future.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four small rubber feet

Joystick-
=Hori Hayabusa joystick

Buttons-
=Hori Kuro buttons

PCB-
=Common ground PCB (Same as HRAP 4 Kai/HRAP.V/DoA5LR)
=Multiple PCBs (main PCB, side PCB, touch screen)
=Touch screen PCB is connected to main PCB using a small ribbon cable
=Side PCB is connected to main PCB using two standard molex style connectors
=Joystick is connected to main PCB using a standard molex style connector
=Buttons are connected to main PCB by solder and glue
=USB cable is connected to main PCB by using a standard molex style connector

Wiring-
-Signal/Ground wires are soldered on to buttons

USB Cable-
=Wire and cord compartment
=Cable length (3m)

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
=Is the PCB possible to multi-mod with? We know it's common ground, but we don't have if is active high/low.

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Hori DoA5LR
=Hori Dead or Alive 5 Last Round for PS4 & PS3
(Not technically an HRAP as it has no "Real Arcade Pro" in the title, but uses same PCB and case as other HRAPs)

SRKTT thread (DoA5LR)-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/194638/hori-ps4-ps3-dead-or-alive-5-last-round-stick/p1

Case-
Hori Case (New form factor upgrade from RAPV3/RAPVX/RAPV4 style where buttons are now on the side instead of on top/face)
=One main plastic base. Does not have individual plastic pieces.
=Sizes: Width = 430mm, Depth = 237mm, Height (including lever) = 114mm
=Weight (2.2kg)
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=Must open from bottom (Which voids the warranty)
=PS4 touch panel on back
=DoA5LR has an extra piece connected to front middle of case with analog sticks. Unsure if removable yet due to insufficient testing

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels
=Vewlix layout with standard spread between joystick and buttons

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Default artwork can leave a sticky residue when removing
=Undetermined whether a plexi via Tek Innovations for V3/VX would still fit properly. Even if changed, it's unlikely they wouldn't have a plexi for it in the near future.

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=No padding
=Four small rubber feet

Joystick-
=Hori Hayabusa joystick

Buttons-
=Hori Kuro buttons
=Signal/Ground wires are soldered on to buttons

PCB-
=Common ground PCB (Same as HRAP 4 Kai/HRAP.V/DoA5LR)
=Multiple PCBs (main PCB, side PCB, touch screen)
=Touch screen PCB is connected to main PCB using a small ribbon cable
=Side PCB is connected to main PCB using two standard molex style connectors
=Joystick is connected to main PCB using a standard molex style connector
=Buttons are connected to main PCB by solder and glue
=USB cable is connected to main PCB by using a standard molex style connector

Wiring-
=Typical

USB Cable-
=Wire and cord compartment
=Cable length (3m)

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
-Is the PCB possible to multi-mod with? We know it's common ground, but we don't have if is active high/low.

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Hori RAP4 Premium VLX
=Real Arcade Pro 4 Premium VLX Kuro for PS4 & PS3

SRKTT thread-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/195793/the-hori-ps4-vlx-thread/p1

Case-
Hori VLX Case (Same as VLX models for PS3/360)
=Sizes - Width = 570mm, Depth = 260mm, Height (including lever) = 140mm
=Weight (5.4kg/11.9lbs)
=Interior of case has plenty of space for mounting PCBs
=PS4 touch panel on back of case

Metal Panels-
+Both top and bottom metal panels

Plexi/Art-
=No default plexi
=Default artwork can leave a sticky residue when removing

Bottom Padding/Feet-
=Padding

Joystick-
=Hori Hayabusa joystick

Buttons-
=Hori Kuro buttons

PCB-
=Insuffiecent testing

Wiring-
=Typical

USB Cable-
=Wire and cord compartment
=Cable length (3m/9.8ft)

Unanswered Questions Due to Insufficient Testing-
To Edit



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It’s been a while since SLS Sega Saturn USB Control Pads were available …

March 5, 2017, 4:13 am
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Dear shoryuken community,

I’ve been reading a lot of thread here for the last two days and had an eye on like ebay for at least three weeks now.

As the genuine SLS Sega Saturn USB Pads are almost impossible to purchase, and if then what I’ve seen not below $150, I wondered if some of you had lately—not back in 2014 or when—experiences with PCB-swapping, for example putting the Play Sega PCB into an genuine Sega Saturn Control Pad (non-USB) or e.g. this Retrolink clone (I think these two are the most appropriate clones, from what I read here).

Also I read about soldering some USB wire directly to the non-USB Control Pads, but that looked to me very very complex if you’re not into electronics.

So, could you please give me some advice? I doubt there will be some awesome e.g. 8bitdo Sega Saturn Control Pads, so I wonder if I should buy some of those Play Sega or Retrolink ones, if I should just stay with them or if I should swap there PCB into some non-USB original Control Pad … (I also remember there were some inconsistencies with e.g. the should pads? That’s a pity …)

Thank you very very much for your advice!
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